lining a whiskey barrel

On Sat, 19 May 2007 17:33:08 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

>If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
>mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I
>assume it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells
>up. I want to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a
>commercial barrel liner. Thanks.
>
>Bob

I had a half wiskey barrel now for five years and it swells and does
not leak at all. This year I have two ponds for my lotus and
waterlillies so I have the wiskey barrel used for a nice container
planting using phormium, variegated vinca minor, esperanza and
variegated morning glories. I'll take photos when it's filled in.
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Just be very chosey when you pick out the barrel half. snug up hoops
and fill with water., may leak for a day or two but it will eventually
stop. I have three halfs so far that hold water as good as a liner
does..We put aquatic flowers in them the first year or two as the
smell was a bit hard to try and remove, but now they also hold fish
without a problem.

On Sat, 19 May 2007 17:33:08 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

<<>>If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
<<>>mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I
<<>>assume it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells
<<>>up. I want to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a
<<>>commercial barrel liner. Thanks.
<<>>
<<>>Bob



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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"zxcvbob" wrote in message

> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I assume
> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I want
> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial barrel
> liner. Thanks.
>
> Bob


It'll work until it doesn't, and that moment cannot be predicted. But, since
you say you're cheap, you have alternative.
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"zxcvbob" wrote in message

> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I assume
> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I want
> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial barrel
> liner. Thanks.
>
> Bob

Buy a cheap shower curtain liner at WalMart. They cost less than $4. Line
barrel and cut of excess. They're heavy enough to last several years, if not
longer.
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:48:19 -0500, "Manelli Family"
wrote:

>
>"zxcvbob" wrote in message
>
>> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
>> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I assume
>> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I want
>> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial barrel
>> liner. Thanks.
>>
>> Bob
>
>Buy a cheap shower curtain liner at WalMart.

Or maybe some store, like maybe Costco, that treats their staff like
human beings, and doesn't throw them on the taxpayers for medical
care. And does not force their suppliers to cut prices so far that
they, in turn, are forced to go offshore, costing more Americans their
jobs.

Frontline -- the best program on TV for my money -- a few months ago
aired a thorough examination of Walmart's ripple effect on our
economy.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

Persephone

They cost less than $4. Line
>barrel and cut of excess. They're heavy enough to last several years, if not
>longer.
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

<Persephone> wrote in message

> On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:48:19 -0500, "Manelli Family"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"zxcvbob" wrote in message
>>
>>> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
>>> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I
>>> assume
>>> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I
>>> want
>>> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial
>>> barrel
>>> liner. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>Buy a cheap shower curtain liner at WalMart.
>
> Or maybe some store, like maybe Costco, that treats their staff like
> human beings, and doesn't throw them on the taxpayers for medical
> care. And does not force their suppliers to cut prices so far that
> they, in turn, are forced to go offshore, costing more Americans their
> jobs.
>
> Frontline -- the best program on TV for my money -- a few months ago
> aired a thorough examination of Walmart's ripple effect on our
> economy.
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
>
> Persephone
>
> They cost less than $4. Line
>>barrel and cut of excess. They're heavy enough to last several years, if
>>not
>>longer.
>

Not eveyone has acess to a Costco. Everyone has a WalMart. Yes, I agree,
they're pretty bad but you can find anything there for less than anywhere
else. For those of us who are retired or making a low income, they're the
place to shop.
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:37:02 -0700, Persephone wrote:

>Or maybe some store, like maybe Costco, that treats their staff like
>human beings, and doesn't throw them on the taxpayers for medical
>care. And does not force their suppliers to cut prices so far that
>they, in turn, are forced to go offshore, costing more Americans their
>jobs.

I assure you Costco buys merchandise from China where they pay 20
cents an hour.

>Frontline -- the best program on TV for my money -- a few months ago
>aired a thorough examination of Walmart's ripple effect on our
>economy.
>
>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
>
>Persephone

Netflix, if you belong, has a great documentary called:

Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price

I highly recommend it. Netflix will give a two week free trial to
anyone who wants to try it.
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

On Sun, 20 May 2007 22:14:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


>The problem is that people believe what you just said is true for
>everything. Here (Rochester NY), their groceries are NOT cheaper than at the
>two real supermarkets. True believers have a hard time with this.
>

Actually, that's the ignorance of the consumer, not the fault of
Walmart prices. People are very lazy and they don't know what the
relative prices for merchandise actually are.

I've gone into Macy's or Dillards at the end of a season and bought
beautiful linen shirts, pants, 400 thread count sheets, etc. all very,
very inexpensively. Probably less than Walmart and twice the quality.
Even Kohl's is a good alternative to Walmart. I shop Walmart because
it's convenient. Nothing I do will ever change anything. All of
America has to rise up to put an end to Walmart and that is not about
to happen any time soon.
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

"Manelli Family" wrote in message

>
> <Persephone> wrote in message
>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:48:19 -0500, "Manelli Family"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"zxcvbob" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
>>>> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I
>>>> assume
>>>> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I
>>>> want
>>>> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial
>>>> barrel
>>>> liner. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>>Buy a cheap shower curtain liner at WalMart.
>>
>> Or maybe some store, like maybe Costco, that treats their staff like
>> human beings, and doesn't throw them on the taxpayers for medical
>> care. And does not force their suppliers to cut prices so far that
>> they, in turn, are forced to go offshore, costing more Americans their
>> jobs.
>>
>> Frontline -- the best program on TV for my money -- a few months ago
>> aired a thorough examination of Walmart's ripple effect on our
>> economy.
>>
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
>>
>> Persephone
>>
>> They cost less than $4. Line
>>>barrel and cut of excess. They're heavy enough to last several years, if
>>>not
>>>longer.
>>
>
> Not eveyone has acess to a Costco. Everyone has a WalMart. Yes, I agree,
> they're pretty bad but you can find anything there for less than anywhere
> else. For those of us who are retired or making a low income, they're the
> place to shop.
>
>

The problem is that people believe what you just said is true for
everything. Here (Rochester NY), their groceries are NOT cheaper than at the
two real supermarkets. True believers have a hard time with this.
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

> "Manelli Family" wrote in message
>
> >
> > <Persephone> wrote in message
> >
> >> On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:48:19 -0500, "Manelli Family"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"zxcvbob" wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
> >>>> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I
> >>>> assume
> >>>> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I
> >>>> want
> >>>> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial
> >>>> barrel
> >>>> liner. Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob
> >>
> >> Or maybe some store, like maybe Costco, that treats their staff like
> >> human beings, and doesn't throw them on the taxpayers for medical
> >> care. And does not force their suppliers to cut prices so far that
> >> they, in turn, are forced to go offshore, costing more Americans their
> >> jobs.
> >>
> >> Frontline -- the best program on TV for my money -- a few months ago
> >> aired a thorough examination of Walmart's ripple effect on our
> >> economy.
> >>
> >> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
> >>
> >> Persephone
> >
> > Not eveyone has acess to a Costco. Everyone has a WalMart. Yes, I agree,
> > they're pretty bad but you can find anything there for less than anywhere
> > else.
>
> The problem is that people believe what you just said is true for
> everything. Here (Rochester NY), their groceries are NOT cheaper than at the
> two real supermarkets. True believers have a hard time with this.

Bob, as I mentioned in an earlier post, tightening the hoops on the
barrels, while they are dry, will probably be sufficient to make the
barrels water tight. Once you have the tools, it takes about 5 min. When
the wood gets wet, which may take a few days, it swells and seals
itself. If that doesn't work, drop me a line or you can still buy a
liner from Myanmar if you want. What you don't pay at Walmart as a
consumer, you pay for as a tax payer.

Think globally, buy locally.

Persephone, your hot today girl.

- Bill

Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

Bill Rose wrote:
> In article ,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
>
>> "Manelli Family" wrote in message
>>
>>> <Persephone> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:48:19 -0500, "Manelli Family"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "zxcvbob" wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
>>>>>> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I
>>>>>> assume
>>>>>> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial
>>>>>> barrel
>>>>>> liner. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>> Or maybe some store, like maybe Costco, that treats their staff like
>>>> human beings, and doesn't throw them on the taxpayers for medical
>>>> care. And does not force their suppliers to cut prices so far that
>>>> they, in turn, are forced to go offshore, costing more Americans their
>>>> jobs.
>>>>
>>>> Frontline -- the best program on TV for my money -- a few months ago
>>>> aired a thorough examination of Walmart's ripple effect on our
>>>> economy.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
>>>>
>>>> Persephone

I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition! ;-)

>
> Bob, as I mentioned in an earlier post, tightening the hoops on the
> barrels, while they are dry, will probably be sufficient to make the
> barrels water tight. Once you have the tools, it takes about 5 min. When
> the wood gets wet, which may take a few days, it swells and seals
> itself. If that doesn't work, drop me a line or you can still buy a
> liner from Myanmar if you want. What you don't pay at Walmart as a
> consumer, you pay for as a tax payer.
>
> Think globally, buy locally.
>
> Persephone, your hot today girl.
>
> - Bill
>
> Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


I'm going to try tightening the hoops, just like you said. I need to
pick thru the barrels and make sure I buy one with a good bottom. If it
still leaks after a week, I have a big roll of 6 mil plastic already; I
don't need to buy a shower curtain liner from Walmart or anybody else.

Thanks,
Bob
 >> Stay informed about: lining a whiskey barrel 

In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

> Bill Rose wrote:
> > In article ,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
> >
> >> "Manelli Family" wrote in message
> >>
> >>> <Persephone> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:48:19 -0500, "Manelli Family"
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> "zxcvbob" wrote in message
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If I buy a half whiskey barrel at HD, Menard's, or Lowe's, will clear 6
> >>>>>> mil plastic be good enough for lining it so it will hold water? I
> >>>>>> assume
> >>>>>> it won't hold water without a liner even after the wood swells up. I
> >>>>>> want
> >>>>>> to plant a lotus seedling in it. I'm too cheap to buy a commercial
> >>>>>> barrel
> >>>>>> liner. Thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bob
> >>>> Or maybe some store, like maybe Costco, that treats their staff like
> >>>> human beings, and doesn't throw them on the taxpayers for medical
> >>>> care. And does not force their suppliers to cut prices so far that
> >>>> they, in turn, are forced to go offshore, costing more Americans their
> >>>> jobs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Frontline -- the best program on TV for my money -- a few months ago
> >>>> aired a thorough examination of Walmart's ripple effect on our
> >>>> economy.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
> >>>>
> >>>> Persephone
>
> I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition! ;-)
>
> >
> > Bob, as I mentioned in an earlier post, tightening the hoops on the
> > barrels, while they are dry, will probably be sufficient to make the
> > barrels water tight. Once you have the tools, it takes about 5 min. When
> > the wood gets wet, which may take a few days, it swells and seals
> > itself. If that doesn't work, drop me a line or you can still buy a
> > liner from Myanmar if you want. What you don't pay at Walmart as a
> > consumer, you pay for as a tax payer.
> >
> > Think globally, buy locally.
> >
> > Persephone, your hot today girl.
> >
> > - Bill
> >
> > Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
>
>
> I'm going to try tightening the hoops, just like you said. I need to
> pick thru the barrels and make sure I buy one with a good bottom. If it
> still leaks after a week, I have a big roll of 6 mil plastic already; I
> don't need to buy a shower curtain liner from Walmart or anybody else.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

Let's talk before you spend any money. There is more than one way to . .
.. uh, hold the thought. If you run into problems, give us a call.

- Bill

Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 18:09:58 -0500, jangchub
wrote:


[...]

>Nothing I do will ever change anything.

History is full of examples of one person doing something that
changed everything.

All of
>America has to rise up to put an end to Walmart and that is not about
>to happen any time soon.

[...]

Yeah, if they all think like you, right, it won't happen.
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